Authorities Refuse to Enforce New International Drivers Permit Law in Florida
The Florida Highway Patrol said the new law, which requires international drivers to obtain a $25 permit to drive in Florida, could violate the Geneva Convention.
ST. PETE, FL -- Some local law enforcement agencies, including the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles and the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office, have announced they are not going to enforce a new state law requiring international drivers to obtain a $25 driving permit to drive in Florida.
The new law was suppose to go into effect on Jan. 1, but authorities fear the new law violates the Geneva Convention on road traffic.
The Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles issued a statement Thursday afternoon:
"During the 2012 legislative session, the Florida Legislature amended section 322.04, Florida Statutes, to require visitors from outside the United States to have an International Driving Permit in order to drive lawfully in Florida. This change took effect Jan. 1, 2013.
It has come to the Department's attention that this requirement may violate the Geneva Convention on Road Traffic (1949), an international treaty to which the United States is a signatory. Treaties to which the United States is a party preempt state laws in conflict with them.
Therefore, the Florida Highway Patrol will defer enforcement of violations of the amended statutory section until a final determination of the alignment of the amendment with the treaty can be made. Non-resident visitors to Florida who wish to drive while here will be required to have in their immediate possession a valid driver license issued in his or her name from another state or territory of the U.S. or from their country of residence. However, the FHP will not take enforcement action based solely on the lack of an International Driving Permit."
The Sarasota County Sheriff's Office also released a statement Thursday stating it would not enforce the law.
"Until this issue is resolved, deputies will only require that motorists have a valid driver license in their name from their country of residence or territory of the United States," the statement read.
We want to hear from you, St. Petersburg: Do you think the $25 driver permit fee for international drivers in Florida is fair? Join the conversation in the comments section below.
Donald H
7:00 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Trying to impose such a law is just moronic! before even writing such a law as a bill the legislator(s) should have researched the idea to see if it wopuld violate any intrenational treaties, agreements, etc. It just proves that we have the most idiotic "leaders" on the planet!
Dr. D.
1:18 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
So very true!! Starting with the Gov. Scott on down!!!!!
Jose
2:46 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
people are forgetting the 911 plane hijackers...terrorists will be happy about that. Americans are forgetting that our borders are not 50 % secured, if millions of Mexicans can still come a cross ?? so can terrorists. I'm predicting another attack on the U.S. soon..
Brian L.
3:09 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Several notable countries are NOT parties to that treaty, including MEXICO, RUSSIA, SAUDI ARABIA, and a few notable terrorist nations. Maybe those in the Florida Department of Highway Safety might want to get a little more information about the law they cite before discussing it.
Ray
3:15 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Donald, you need to learn to do some homework! The revised statute does not require an international DL. The international DL is one OPTION that exempts the visitor from having a FL-issued DL. If the visitor has a valid DL from their country, then, they are legal to drive in FL. The FHP are ones who have it wrong. Guess that makes YOU the moron/idiot!
Ray
3:43 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Donald, you may not as much the moron as I thought. I re-read 322.04 and the IDL is required, so the FHP has a legitimate concern.
(1) However, using your logic, all laws should be researched to ensure they pass judicial review. (i.e, no law would ever be struck down as unconstitutional) We both know that is not true. Why hold FL leaders to a standard no other leaders can meet.
(2) What about those countries that have not signed the Geneva convention? Why shouldn't we have reasonable requirements on those wishing to drive a car in FL? Can we expect FHP or our deputies to be able to determine the legitimacy of DLs from ANY country in world? Can you read Swahili?
Thomas Mills
4:36 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Hey Ray, It looks like you opened mouth and inserted foot before knowing all the facts. But, can we expect anything but that coming from a Tea Bagger.
Ray
9:01 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Hey. Thomas, how does YOUR foot taste? I did not fail to "get the facts. I simply mis-read the statute. But, at least I caught my own mistake. You only caught your own foot. You see - YOU did not get all the facts. I'm not a tea-bagger. In fact, I am a democrat! Nor did you pay attention to ALL of the considerations here. Morons like yourself make this so easy... snicker
Tom Tucker
4:13 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Forget inforcement, doesn't Governor Rick Scott realize we are a state that relies heavily on tourism? Alot of Canadians drive here and do you really expect them to go and get a special license? I thought he was pro business.
Idiots with nothing better to do.
Judy Ellis
7:44 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
This state has the worst drivers in the country ... and we're going to tell Canadians and other foreign visitors how to drive when they visit? What a joke!
Enrique W.v. Iglesias
1:16 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Sorry, Florida is number 4, Louisiana is number 1 for worst drivers in the country... Now doesn't that make you feel better...???
Judy
10:26 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
When we were in Thailand, my husband had to get an International driver's license to legally drive there.
Wilson Orshal
12:15 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Did Thailand sign the treaty at the Geneva Convention?
Robin
10:45 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I hope this will serve to show how BHO is trying to usurp the Constitution with his attempts to get an International Small Arms Treaty.
Wake up America!
Michael Sue Jenefsky
11:07 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Wake up Robin!
You obviously did not read the entire article. This was done by the Florida Legislature and has nothing to do the president or the rest of the country.
Jeffrey Sachs
11:11 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
How does a treaty that was ratified in 1949 involve President Obama? How does a treaty that is cocerned with driving licenses involve Small Arms?
Noreswindnk
11:14 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I hope this will serve to show how it's necessary to get any education and be able to read before mouthing off...... Robin, have someone read this to you.
fairfield newcomer
11:42 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
it's so unfortunate for you to be such an imbecile. Obama ought to be flattered that all your attention is turned toward him, what a complement to our President.
Joe American
12:00 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
To Michael, Jeffrey, and especially Nores: Raobin is pointing out that international treaties signed by the federal government become laws that supercede state laws, like the Geneva agreement about driving. If a small arms treaty is signed and ratified by the Senate, states will have to adhere to the articles of the treaty, effectively nullifying the 2nd Amendment without the annoying procedure required to amend the Constitution. Democrats hate the resrtictions imposed by the Constitution, and this is a way to undermine the our Constitutional Republic.
yannaro
12:43 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Apples and oranges. And no convention can take away our rights under the Constitution. Those who think so are either dumb, refuse to try and figure it out or have an agenda whose only item is to create trouble for the President.
Solid Centrist
12:59 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Robin:
I don't know if you're more stupid than hateful or more hateful than stupid. I'll just conclude that you are equally as stupid as you are hateful. It's too bad that you can vote. And, it would be terrible if you have brought any children into this world.
r wix
1:31 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
That makes absolutely no sense. This law is a state, not federal, law and was passed by Republicans - who do seem to disregard our constitution a lot.
Irene Brown
2:05 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I don't know what you've been smoking or drinking, Robin, but you really should get off the stuff. It's making you sound moronic.
FlElectra
2:16 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Sorry I meant COUNTRIES in my post..
FlElectra
2:30 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The Arms treaty deals with sales of arms between countries. Read it .... It could hurt the manufacturers. It will not take away your second amendment rights. And the Florida law was passed by our stupid Govenor and his cronies. It was passed so that law enforcement officers would not have to deal with a license they could not read and not be able to know if it really is a license to drive ! Still did not make sense.
Angela
2:34 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Sorry, but, to be polite, you're confused or don't understand. It's Fl. legislature, not the president or Federal gov. who made this rule- State not Federal! Need to read carefully. A
Ray
3:18 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Responding to R wix and to others criticizing Republicans: this amendment to 322.04 was passed UNANIMOUSLY in both the FL Senate and House. I.e,. Democrats as well as Republicans voted for this amendment. Guess that makes you the "morons" and "idiots"
Damon
5:48 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Robin, I am going to have to agree with the comments read that you misinterpreted the article. Obama had nothing to do with this. Robin--you have to understand that Obama does not need your help in stripping the Constitution because he is doing a great job of it without your excerpts--but indeed this article does not fit your comments
Snaproll
5:58 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Robin, either you have a problem with reading comprehension, or you're just simply not too bright.
Doug Meyer
10:49 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I would like to know the name of the Bird-Brained Legislator who came up with this Idea, He or She has to be impeached. This will hurt tourisum to such a degree that we will be begging our Canadian neighbors to return, We love our Canadian friends, They are like us, Great folks. Maybe I should move to Canada, spend our winters in Costa Rica or another warm climate. I own if Florida, 25 years, With Idiots running the State that want to do this, Maybe it is time to leave with my Canadian friends that I have met here 30 years ago, Whom also own property here, AND have been DRIVING here for 30 years. GET REAL FLORIDA, STOP THIS BULL---T, NOW
Angela
2:36 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Don't move, please. Stay and vote in Florida to effect some change.
Ray
2:36 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
ANY visitor (or resident) to the state of Florida, domestic or international, must have a license to hunt or fish. Even if you have a license to hunt/fish in some other state or country, you must get a license to hunt/fish here. Depending on the fee you are willing to pay, the license may be good for only one day. No one I know of complains that this requirement hurts our tourism. Now - who is the idiot here, Doug???
Ralph O'Rourke
4:51 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Doug, I really would have enjoyed being able to read what you were trying to communicate. Do yourself a favor and learn proper procedures for capitalization and sentence construction. You'll look much more intelligent and be more convincing to your readers that you know what you're talking about. As it was written, your blog made you look ignorant, which I'm sure you are not. Good luck to you in your future writings.
Brad Weber
6:10 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I have had to get a similar license to drive in foreign countries. Really just a tax to impose on visitors, rather than the locals. Will not stop anyone from visiting Fl that REALLY wants to drive there. What, you gonna cancel a vacation because of a $25 'tax'? and ignore all the state and locxal taxes that go on every hotel room?
Bob W.
10:54 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
When I was stationed in Germany during the '70's an International Drivers License was required, but not for visitors. I went to Ireland in '04, rented a car and drove around the Island only on my Florida Drivers License. Florida should know better than to encumber tourists, being as big a tourist destination as they are. If it is a revenue issue, which I am sure it is, perhaps they would be better off eliminating waste and fraud in other areas before going after more tourist dollars.
percy
12:35 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
i as a Canadian totally agree, just how many people from here or from other states in the US visit Florida every day? I would expect that number to be quite high, now multiply that by the $25.00 fee is going to equal a large sum of money for someone to put in their pockets
Ray
3:29 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Percy, if the visitor has an international DL from THEIR OWN COUNTRY, they are authorized to drive in FL. This amendment does not make them pay $25 to the state of FL! DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!
Steve R.
11:05 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Steve....
How to alienate friends and influence people (to vacation and invest elsewhere).
What a moronic idea, and for what purpose???
Retract this idea quickly and maybe it will go away.
gdmn2find
11:09 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I was advised to get an International drivers license back about 40 years ago when I was going to visit europe. I got one, but was never asked for it. When I was in the military and stationed over there, I didn't need one because I was on orders and had a current valid license from my home state. I believe that as long as the driver has a current and valid license they should be allowed to drive. I also believe it would be beneficial for that same driver to have an english form of their license that can be understood by our law enforcement officials. I don't think many of them or even too many americans can read for example mandarin chinese, or russian. It would also help if they understood our traffic laws and were able to read the signs.
Enrique W.v. Iglesias
1:09 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
You will recall of course that their signs are quite simple but in their language; I remember driving around the ring in Frankfurt, Germany; and saying to myself this Ausgang must be the biggest town in Germany as they have exits to it every 200 km...
Margo Stapleton
3:09 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Husband was Air Force stationed near Edinburgh, Scotland. Dependants could use their home state licenses for a year, then needed to get a local one (odd, no pics, just a wee paper booklet!) However, if we left the country to visit elsewhere, that year allowance began again when we returned, which also seemed a bit odd. Their driving test, by the way, was a doozy, including parking facing uphill, restarting engine and safely driving off, also making an emergency stop....and hoping not to toss the examiner through the windshield, since this was before seatbelts!
Snaproll
6:12 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Then you think, obviously, that Americans visiting other countries should have a version in the local language ? If you were touring Europe from Turkey to Belgium, say, that license would have to be in about six or seven different languages.
Poderac
11:36 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
When in the Army stationed in Germany in 1969, we had to be tested and get an international license before we could drive a civilian vehicle there. ""Not free"" What is the difference?
Dallas Bond
2:02 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
It is the difference between being stationed there and being a short term visitor there. A better question to ask would be whether the requirement was a military requirement in order to reduce liability or an indigenous idea.
Angela
2:39 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The difference is 44 years! and military vs. civilian. What has that got to do with driving in Florida?
Snaproll
6:15 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
This whole article refers to visitors. If someone from another country, or state, lives here, then sure, they have to get a Florida license.
G Russell Hunt
11:36 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Although not all that difficult to obtain, it will act as a deterent for tourists. There are numerous other places that welcome tourists vacation dollars that do not impliment laws that will act as an impediment to tourism. Talk about big brother!
Paula Larson
1:37 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
They're talking about international tourists, not American tourists.
Angela
2:39 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Good point.
fairfield newcomer
11:40 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Leave it to Florida to violate the Geneva Convention and have they forgotten they are a state that depends on tourists?
Dani Grady
11:47 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The reaction is BS. First of all who believes that the Hwy Patrol knows a hoot about the Geneva convention? What really happened is the lefty pro-illegal immigration groups researched this and found an obscure Treaty then they called their lefty friends at the union and asked them to refuse to enforce this law based on their obscure finding. Secondly, the accused have a right to use this as a defense if charged. It is the job law enforcement to enforce the law as written, not write the law. Law enforcement doesn't get to make a determination of justifiable homocide, the arrest and the legal system get to decide.
Mary Homerding
2:17 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The Geneva Convention is not an obscure Treaty. You might need to educate yourself on this Treaty before writing drivel for all to see. I am not a Democrat, so don't try that one on me.
Angela
2:48 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Boy, there is so much to address in this illogical and biased argument that it's difficult to know where to begin. Highway Patrol not aware of Geneva Convention? pro-illegal immigrant groups equated to tourists?(Tourists come from all over, including Europe, Asia, Iceland, etc. Your bias against other foreigners is showing.
Lefty union friends? What has this to do with the Geneva Convention? Please, Florida has enough problems without demonstrating blatant ignorance.
Kathryn
11:50 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
When I was in Okinawa in the 80's I had to take a test and get an International Drivers License before I was allowed to drive.
Angela
2:49 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Japan is a country. Florida is a state.
randy cabrera
12:22 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
we have legislators in florida who are idiots wrapped in a moron.
FlElectra
2:20 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Exactly, let's hope it all changes next time.
Ron Bolster
12:38 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Florida is run by Repubs, isn't it?
FlElectra
2:21 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Oh yes, but it is led by one that even his own party distances themselves from!
foottdude
12:39 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
When I rented a motorcycle for a day in Mexico, I had to pay for an international license. I think it was about $15.00.
martyjones201
12:42 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
If we violate a treaty we set the standard for other countries to do the same.
Angela
2:50 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Great point!
yannaro
12:46 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
This is just another attempt by Florida to get money out of tourists. Rent a car in Florida and get a ten per cent airport facility fee, whatever that is, tacked on, in addition to sales tax, etc. Food, clothing, even newspapers are taxed, depending on where you buy them.
Paula Larson
1:33 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
It's not just tourists that are taxed. EVERYONE in Florida is taxed. Locals that rent a car, buy a newspaper, etc. pay the same taxes. There is NO tax on food purchased in grocery stores in Florida but if you eat out, you are taxed, EVERYONE is. Florida only has 1 tax and that is sales tax. Where I live now, there is state tax, city tax, county tax, personal tax, etc. Also, newspapers are taxed if you buy them in a store but not in a vending machine.
Ray
3:20 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Yannaro, if the visitor has an international DL FROM THEIR OWN COUNTRY, they are allowed to drive a car in FL. They are not required to buy anything from FL. You need to get your facts straight!
yannaro
12:46 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
This is just another attempt by Florida to get money out of tourists. Rent a car in Florida and get a ten per cent airport facility fee, whatever that is, tacked on, in addition to sales tax, etc. Food, clothing, even newspapers are taxed, depending on where you buy them.
C. A. Farr
1:17 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
No income tax in Florida is made up by taxing EVERYONE for inhaling and exhaling in the officially most corrupt state in the union.
Paula Larson
1:26 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
According to the site below, Georgia is the most corrupt state in America.
http://247wallst.com/2012/03/22/americas-most-corrupt-states/3/
arnie jenks
1:24 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I tried to see the Florida legistrators point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my ass.
Not me
1:27 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The Geneva convention law only applies to short term "visitors". Those who visit another country for an extended period are required to get an international license after passing testing for the country where they will be staying. "Visiting" Florida or any other state for the matter, for months, years, etc does not mean you do not need to obtain an international license and follow the laws of the land. Everyone today thinks they are a lawyer...
Angela
2:52 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Please, check your facts!
Ray
3:22 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Thank you. A voice of reason among a sea of "morons" and "idiots".
Snaproll
6:24 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Angela, if you move to Florida, whether it is from Alabama or Sweden and establish residency, as opposed to visiting, gotta get a Florida license. Check your facts.
john small
1:40 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Florida can KISS MY ASS with their law......... Same goes for needing a FISHING
LICENSE to fish the Atlantic Ocean.......
Ray
3:25 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
You can kiss your own ASS. A license is needed to hunt or fish ANYWHERE in FL, not just in the Atlantic. Residents need a license, and any visitor (domestic or foreign). After all, how do we pay for the game wardens, marine patrol, etc. If you wish to hunt/fish, then you should be willing to pay for the privilege. Surely you do not expect the taxpayer to pay for YOUR activities. You sound like a "pwogwessive" and want everyone else to subsidize your choices.
Dorine Houston
1:51 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
How can anybody cogently argue all the points brought up in a mere 1500 chars?
It isn't a FL tax; it's required all over the world and doesn't deter anybody from touring say, England or France. Naysayers are ignorant of the reality and are being stupid.
Lee
1:57 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Those durn Floridian Taxi Cab lobbyests! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
jeffrey a. schwartz
2:04 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I was stationed in Okinawa in 1977. I was required to have a civilian drivers licence to drive there. All I needed to do was show reason or need to drive and I was allowed to take the driving test. It cost me nothing just my time to go to the driving office to be tested.
The joke was when I returned to the US I was required to have insurance. However the insurance companies would only cover me with expensive high risk policies. Two I remember were Allstate and State Farm they said it was due to me not having insurance for a year. I had dropped my insurance when I was sent overseas. No need for insurance if I'm not driving in the US right.
Well it was a way of making more money for the insurance company. This law in Florida is a way to make money for Florida. However no one stopped to think how many thousands of dollars will be spent on legal fees trying to enforce the law. For once the DMV and State Troopers are thinking.
Who cares who found the loop hole what matters is it was found before the courts were over loaded with tickets it can't enforce. It saves the tax payer dollars and saves tax dollars collected in other ways. It also avoids upsetting a tourist trade that the state,counties and city and townships depend.
Jose
2:55 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Americans never learn from their mistakes...How did the 911 terrorists get in the U.S. ??? visas, America is still giving out visas like candy to babies. Many stay in the U.S. after their visas are expired and do we track them down to deport them ??? no... I'm predicting another terrorists attack on the U.S. You would think that the Mexico border would think that the Mexico border would be 100 % secured after the 911 attacks, but no, the Mexico border is only 40 % secured, sad and a joke..Maybe another attack will get the politicians to once and for all secure that dam border before is too late...I believe that terrorists have already enter the U.S. . .I won't be surprise if we get attack again. Former U.S. Marine.
sean
3:04 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH LICENSE FEES IN FLORIDA?
there are factions who think that the southern borders security was never the issue as this was an american planned, american financed, american effected incident to justify the illegal invasion of oil producing countries...- remember saddam invaded kuwait after getting the 'american nod'...why did we give such a nod..to make saddam look evil...then add to that the 911 incident...and viola !! you have a almost perfect justification to attack...but to ensure europes cooperation we throw in the IAEA to confirm that saddam had loads of nuke material...another fabricated gimmick......HAVING CLEARED YOUR PPOINT AS NON RELEVANT IN EVERY WHICH WAY ...you must be either stupid or ignorant to think that you need a secure southern border to stop another fiasco....!
sean
2:56 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Ofcourse we can demand all fporeign visitors to cough up $25.00...but this fee will cost the usa an arm and a leg...reason as follows
1/ You willl find disgruntled visitors thinking twice to return here in the future
2/ The USa enforces a tax..in the form of a lemy license..the rest of the world will follow almost instantly..they like a steady income just as much..only theirs may be a higher fee.....net result..we take even more of our $$s abroiad , just to pay for our shortsighted greed
3/ The world has not really got a good opinion of our illegal invasions into all these countries in the name of terrorism...here is another reason for people to feel that the usa is indeed a rogue nation, overriding international laws whenever it suits
Andrew Miller
3:02 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I think the permit idea is ridiculously stupid and just a money grab by the state. But....
Why the hell does the Geneva Convention have anything in it about road traffic? What else is in there that shouldnt be in there and maybe impedes on the rights of citizens of other countries?
Ray
3:38 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
My apologies to SOME of you. I misread 322.04. The amendments does require the international DL AND a DL from their own country. However, to those of you criticizing Republicans, the amendment was passed unanimously, Democrats and Republicans, and the IDL can be issued from their own country. No one has to pay $25 to the state of FL.
Brian Corvello
3:50 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Some folks are mentioning countries who didn't sign that treaty, as if that is an excuse. You miss the biggest point: WE did sign it.
That means we have to abide by it.
Jan
4:37 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Have they lost their minds? They may think this has something to do with curbing illegals (why else would they do it??) but seems to me there's other ways that aren't so inane.
Fred Canuck
4:40 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I think a lot of you good folks miss the point. As one of the 3,000,000+ Canadians that visit your state, this is not only a bit of an insult but also a pain in the a$$ to have to have two passport photos taken, fill out the forms for the IDP, fork over $25.00 and then wait for it to be processed. I'd just as soon visit another state. How would you feel if Canada refused to recognize U.S. driver's licenses?
Jim
5:03 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Hey Canuck, get rid of your ridiculous VAT and we'll stop charging you fees.
Fred Canuck
5:09 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Any lawyers or insurance agents reading this?
Here is the problem I see now.......
The State of Florida realizes they made a mistake.
They say the law will not be enforced.
BUT, it is still the law untill changed by the legislature.
Therefore, as a Canadian how does it effect my insurance? Technically insurance only covers legally licensed drivers and by LAW in Florida non-residents must have an International Drivers Permit to drive.
SO, what happens if I have an accident in Florida and do not have an IDP?
GP
7:07 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
If your policy is Canadian, you are covered without restriction. Your Canadian policy wording requires you to be legally licensed in your province of residence to meet the requirement. It is unaffected by any requirement such as the proposed one in Florida.
Fred Canuck
7:07 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I'm with you Jim, we gotta pay em too!
Fred Canuck
7:19 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Good info GP, but I am still a little concerned as I am renting a car in Florida and my credit card (Visa) will be covering the insurance. I suspect reason would prevail, but these days you never know.
Bob
12:05 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
my concern on something like this would be if they even knew what the basic rules were for driving in this country. Remember that in Europe and England and elsewhere in this world we have vastly different rules governing driving. testing them to make sure they can drive safely on the road is not a bad idea. if they have already proven that to get an international driver's license and not just one for their own particular country then this is a dumb law. if not then maybe this needs to be looked at closer.
david Millar
10:26 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
The driving test and driving standards in UK and Europe far exceed that of the US. Driving tests and tuition here is pathetic to say the least. This is just another SCOT tax.
Alain
1:07 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I am Canadian and I spend over 12K dollars year in US, if the International driving licence will apply in Florida why I should visit your state? why I should pay 25$ more a year in Quebec to visit your State?
your State don't need that monney?
Alain
1:31 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
P.S. in England, Japan and Irland they drive in right side.
Mike Barnett
1:34 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Hey! If Obama said it is ok, then it MUST be ok!
Fred Canuck
11:26 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
What on earth does Obama have to do with a law enacted by your own Florida legislature?????
Thumper
6:10 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
By the way .... The cost of an International Driving Permit in the UK is £5.50 plus two passport photos and this can be done over the counter at main Post Offices. I live in the UK but have a holiday home in Florida I shall be getting my IDP next week. I am not taking any chances!!!
FlElectra
11:07 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
The state of Florida does not get any money from the IDL, they would only get money if someone was to be fined for not having one if stopped. The IDL is purchased where you live. The issue here is Florida requiring one not Florida selling you one. I am always amazed at the comments generated by any topic... They get so far off base it is unreal.
Fred Canuck
11:24 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
You are right FlElectra. But it is Florida that is requiring visitors to go to the extra expense and waste of time to obtain an IDP.
For Canadians, it involves the cost of having 2 passport photos taken + $25 fee to the CAA, and a monumental waste of time.
FlElectra
11:33 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
You are correct Fred, our present "leaders" seem to be making a lot of very stupid and unneeded laws. My area in Tampa has a very large Canadian group of visitors and winter residents. I hope they all continue to enjoy Fl. I was in no way defending Florida.
Fred Canuck
11:48 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Not at all happy about this but in Florida's defence you guys don't have a manopoly on dumb legislators. We once had legislation where I come from creating the Samuel Holland Institute of Technology. They had the name spread all over the place in signage, letterhead, etc. But when the school put in their first order for jackets with the school initials across the back, the legislature had to meet to quickly change the name. True story - no one can make this stuff up.
FlElectra
5:55 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Love it !
Peter J Dunlay
12:23 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
If anyone wants to know how America views "Treaties", just look at how our Government has used them in the past. Native American Treaties come to mind. Government only observes Treaties when it's to their advantage. We are a Sovereign Nation and Florida is a Sovereign State. There are those that want to change that so that we can all fit in the same box! Watch for it!
Mr Victor Hannah
4:29 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I live in Scotland and have been visiting the lovely Sunshine State and it's lovely people once or twice each year for 14 years - next visit in April!. I have held a full driving licence for 47 years. The point is that this new law was not publicised and not mentioned on my car hire agreement so I could have arrived at the Airport and discovered that I could not hire a car without an International Driving Permit - so 3 weeks vacation ruined. Fortunately I saw an item on BBC news on Friday morning and started researching myself.
The position now, as I understand it, is that the "new law" is still on the statute book but will not be enforced. It is, however, still a law and to make sure that there are no insurance implications for me I will have to obtain an IDP - which is only valid for 12 months so if I decide to vacation in Florida next year I need another IDP. OK it only costs £5.50 (about $8.50) and a passport photo but there are only 88 Post Offices in the entire UK that issue them and not very many of these are in Scotland. Most of them are in large city centres and if you have ever been in the UK you will know that car parking is not easy in any city and our Post Offices are the same as yours - stand in line for hours.
It is just a hassle I could have done without.
My car hire agreement states that I must produce a driving license in "Roman Script". In other words "in English" - surely your legislators could have found a similar wording for the "new law"?
FlElectra
5:53 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
An excellent point.
JimR
9:09 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Good points, but the cost of the IDP for Canadian's is like this: $25 permit fee + $10 admin fee +$25 approx for two photos which is about $60 per annum, or about $300 over five years. Consider further that the passport for five years can be obtained at a fraction of this cost. The difference is that the passport gives a security background and adds a great deal of protection when going through customs and security checks. Whereas all the IDP says is that I have a Canadian drivers license in English, duh, which my drivers license is in English if you care to read it. What a dumb piece of crap legislation. The state and governors office should insist on this being repealed fully and in the meantime get out the message, especially to the car rental agencies that people with a license in English should not be turned down from obtaining a rental car. As I said, if they don't get there act together people will go elsewhere because there are other resorts on earth with sun and nice areas. Get it together Mr. Governor.
Ralph Moody
6:57 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
One good thing, it shows the police how to spell 'Licence' Thanks legislators for making me take a half day from work to pick up something that looks like a 40s ration card.
JimR
8:59 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Hey what is missing here besides a total lack of common sense. Obama is saying his priority is to grow the economy and get American's back to work. Well, Mr. Obama you should get this idiotic requirement for Canadian's to carry an additional driving permit. Those Canadian's contribute about $4 BILLION annually to the state of Florida, now, do we need to say how many tens of thousands of jobs that continues to generate in Florida. If you tick Canadian's off, and that's possible because Florida is not the last resort left on the face of the earth to get away to enjoy the sun. It is enough to really get the Canadian's po'd enough to change there mind on visiting Florida. The current cost for a Canadian to hold a Canadian passport for a five-year period is less then $100, but, the cost for them to get the stupid IDP driving permit for the same period would be approximately $350...that is enough to get anyone annoyed enough to go elsewhere. For over 90% of Canadian visitors they already hold a drivers license with photo and in English and all the IDP permit says is that this person holds a drivers license from Canada "in English" duh, no brainer. What a slap in the face to Canadians who help out the economy so much every year. FLORIDA - get the message out there that this IDP is not needed. Particularly, get the message to car rental agencies so that the Canadian's won't have an issue at the airport to rent a car...that would really get them going in the other direction.