Police: Red Light Cameras Working
Last week, St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon said the red light cameras installed in late 2011 are working.
Since red light cameras across St. Petersburg went live in November 2011, thousands of drivers have caused the cameras' motion sensors to read a violation.
In November 2011, 3,379 citations were issued. A month later, that number jumped to 4,177. According to St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon, those citations are only 25 percent of violations read by the cameras.
Yes, that means 75 percent of the time, "violators" did not get a ticket in the mail.
Last week, St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon told city council the red light cameras are working.
"Seventy-five percent of those captured by the cameras are actually rejected," Harmon said. "Ninety-five percent deal with slow roll. That's a high percentage of rejection."
All violations are first screened by computers before they are even sent to the Police Department. Then former police officers in St. Pete review each violation.
Harmon said that process of review is a huge reason why the cameras are working and appear to have public support.
"Common sense is being applied to the technology, which is why are we getting supporting numbers form the public," Harmon said.
He said right turns on red cause the most violations and are often the most thrown out. Harmon said that if the driver uses caution and does not impede a pedestrian or driver's right-of-way, then most right turn violations are rejected.
The most important part, Harmon said, is that the cameras are making St. Pete drivers think before crossing through an intersection after a light has turned red.
"What you don’t know and can’t measure is how much you are actually preventing," Harmon added. After getting a ticket the public " ... think(s) about running a red light a little bit differently."
Most Wanted Intersection Offenders (From Nov. and Dec. 2011)
- 34th Street and 38th Avenue North
- 66th Street and 38th Avenue North
- 66th Street and Tyrone Boulevard
Red Light Intersections:
- 4th Street and Gandy Boulevard
- 4th Street and 54th Avenue North
- 4thStreet and 22nd Avenue North
- 34th Street and 38th Avenue North
- 34th Street and 1st Avenue North
- 34th Street and 1st Avenue South
- 34th Street and 22nd Avenue South
- 66th Street and 38th Avenue North
- 66th Street and Tyrone Boulevard
- 66th Street and 22nd Avenue North
The automated cameras work 24x7 to catch violators using motion detectors that go on after the light turns red. The cameras also capture license plate data. Police officers review the digital images and then decide if a violation has occurred. If the officer catches a violation, you'll get a $158 ticket in the mail. You will have 30 days to pay the fine or contest the charge. No points are assessed for these violations.
Mike H
8:47 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Only 25% accuracy from red light cameras!! how are they working if 75% are rejected? that means that the red light cameras are wrong 75% of the time and there was no violation. If the cameras were really working, citations would go down, right? meaning the intersection is now safer, but the city view it as successful if the red light cameras generate more revenue, not reduce red light running. That point was clearly made in the article in the St Pete Times a few weeks ago, saying "Tampa's red light cameras are more productive than St Petersburg" because they have generated more revenue. Red light cameras do not make anything more safe. They actually make the intersections more dangerous from the over reactions of drivers, slamming on the brakes etc.
Gwen Thomas
10:52 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Chuck Harmon is surely pleased over the increased revenue from red light cameras after numerous cuts were made to the SPPD prior to their installation. The cameras only go off right as the light changes, not during the time of the red light; which is when the most dangerous accidents occur. Red light cameras=revenue. I've also seen people slam on their brakes to avoid getting a ticket-is that safety or increased paranoia? Money talks.
St Pete Driver
11:02 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
I was stopped at the 22nd Ave. N. and 4th St intersection yesterday when I saw a man in a blue classic car drive right through after the light turned red, no hesitation on his part, and he was looking straight ahead, no cell phone or other distractions. Then I realized why he wasn't concerned, he had out of state plates, which means he doesn't have to pay the red light camera ticket because it's unenforceable on out-of-state drivers.
This leads to one of the things that the police chief didn't mention, the payment rate on these red light camera citations averages only 68% in other Pinellas County municipalities that have them(and that is only greater-than-6-month aged citations).
Oh, and another reason the rejection rates are so high is that the 3,000 city-owned vehicles seem to be immune from receiving citations.
Jerry Kendall
11:48 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
Red light cameras are working. Really? This is the second article that I have seen praising the performance of the "red light cameras". I thought the St. Pete City Council emphasized that this was all about safety and not revenue. Well, we can see that this was just a "line" to put over on the public. Neither article even mentioned safety or reduced accidents but focused totally on the revenue. And, it appears that we think it is good that the number of citations (read revenue) has gone up. Excuse me. How has safety increased if the number of citations is growing? I too have witnesed people slaming on their brakes in a dangerous fashion to avoid the possibility of a ticket. Is this a good thing? This is nothing but a revenue tool and many cities accross the country have tried this and later removed the cameras. Our council was aware of this data but chose to ignore it. Just one more poorly thought out revenue effort. Safety is not part of the equation here. I wonder, too, if we have reduced the duration of the yellow lights, as many other cities did in their revenue pursuits.
Bob Watson
1:02 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
This is Bull$hite! We are sheep waiting to be fleeced! After being through re-distribution by our Marxist President we have to sit idley by and get raked out of our savings by the city!
Jim
11:27 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
The cameras (indirectly) block emergency vehicles - because cars stopped at a camera hesitate to get out of the way! Other side effects: Rearenders, $$$ sent to Oz, AZ or Goldman-Sachs, where it won't come back, and tourists and shoppers driven away.
Worse, a false expectation of safety, because cameras can't stop the real late runners, who cause the accidents. (If cameras worked, camera sellers wouldn't have the crash videos they supply to the media.)
Want safety, no side effects?
To cut car/pedestrian accidents, train your kids not to step out just 'cuz the walk sign came on.
To cut nuisance running (a fraction of a second late), lengthen the yellows. It's cheap to do so can be done all over town.
The dangerous real late (multiple seconds) runs won't be stopped by the mere presence of a camera, because the runner won't know (a tourist) or won't remember (a distracted or impaired "local") that there's a camera up ahead. They're not doing it on purpose! To cut these real late runs, improve the visual cues that say, "Intersection ahead." Florida's DOT found that better pavement markings (paint!) cut running by up to 74%. Make the signal lights bigger, add backboards, and put the poles on the NEAR side of the corner. Put brighter bulbs in the street lights at intersections. Put up lighted name signs for the cross streets.
Who needs cameras and their side effects?
Salvatore Iacopelli
5:18 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Are you people serious?!?! So the cameras are at fault here???? Look, if you are granted a driver's license, you have been given the right to drive WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE LAW. That means that you STOP at red lights. If you're making a right turn, you STILL HAVE TO STOP. You can't just roll on through like you own the street. I drive, but I also ride my bicycle a lot, and I can honestly say that about a dozen times I've almost been hit by people who don't seem to care about observing the laws; they're too busy texting and talking on their cell phones to FOCUS on their operation of a 2000 pound death machine. The dismissal of 75% of the violations is a freebie given to these unattentive drivers by the city. THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT TICKETING 'SLOW ROLLERS!' They review each violation and make a judgement based on clear video evidence. Just come to a stop and you'll be OK.
And for the argument about people slamming on their brakes to avoid a citation: at every intersection the dotted white lines which separate traffic lanes become solid white lines as you approach the light. These lines are the correct length to provide ample time to stop when the light turns yellow, depending on what the speed limit on a particular road may be. The problem is that people don't drive the speed limit. IT'S A LIMIT, NOT A SUGGESTION! It's not OK to drive 5 mph over the LIMIT! If people started driving more responsibly, SLOW DOWN, and pay more attention, the cameras wouldn't have been needed.
billy bob
1:55 pm on Monday, May 14, 2012
so you own stock in red light camera company"we got that!"