White House: Florida, Other States Cannot Secede From U.S.
A petition with more than 37,000 signatures to allow the Sunshine State to withdraw from the United States has been denied. What do you think, St. Pete?
It looks like the United States will be stuck with Florida whether folks in the Sunshine State like it or not.
A petition before the White House to allow Florida to peacefully secede from the United States was denied Friday by the White House.
More than 37,000 people had signed the petition, and similar petitions in eight other states, including Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Texas. Also denied was a petition to deport everyone who had signed a similar petition.
Secession was put out of the realm of state rights after the Civil War, partially through the 14th Amendment, Slate reports, and a Supreme Court interpretation confirmed as much in 2010, according to Politico.com. Those arguments are spelled out by the White House.
The legal argument was that the state would have to sue the U.S., and the U.S. government would have to be consented to be sued for a declaratory judgment, and in that case, the federal government would probably decline.
In the White House's response to all 10 petitions, and titled "Our States Remain United," spokesman Jon Carson wrote:
Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.
In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."
Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideasand share more of your own.
Florida Secession Petition Coverage
- Residents Petition White House For Florida To Secede From U.S.
- Florida Petition To Secede Reaches 30,000 Signatures
- Florida Secession Movement: Your Thoughts?
jjinfl
7:32 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I didn't know this petition was sent, but it is interesting. I heard that Texas had taken a similar action. I agree with the premise except for the expense...a state would need to have access to a lot more funding than Florida has to strike out on its own. We could never afford to carry out the plan. Especially with the older population residing in FL, so many people need government benefits such as social security support, national defense, and health benefits, such as they are. At the least, I think it makes quite a bold statement for the politicos to ponder when states are discussing leaving the fold because of the actions of leaders who seem not to care about the majority of the citizens they represent. Many of them have become used to using our hard-earned money in any way they choose. They also seem comfortable about changing the fabric of our nation and frivolously taking our freedoms away day by day without remembering that they were sent to D.C. to work for their constituents, not the reverse. Yes, the government should work for all the people, but folks who have worked and saved all their lives in order to be responsible for themselves and make their own educated decisions should be respected and appreciated.
Jeanni L. Stewart
10:08 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I respect and appreciate your comment. You are very inteligent and well spoken. Those that thought of suceding should have spoken to you first, and not waisted so much of everyone's time.
Jon Crawfurd
9:23 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
the notion that Florida could go it on its own is ... well, words fail me! What a waste of time, ink, and electrons. Pathetic.
Shore Acres Rick
10:55 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
I wonder if the same people that think seceding is a wonderful idea have actually thought about how they would defend the new Republic of Florida from say... a Cuban or Mexican invasion? Or what would happen to Florida economy if the remaining United States placed an embargo on trade and tourism? It's astonishing how some people can live in world's foremost economy, a nation with historically unprecedented freedom and a standard of living that Victorian nobility would have envied and still find reason to grouse.
Don Dye
4:17 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Why do 37 thousand scared Fox News viewers think they should decide to secede for the other 19 million of us? Because they fear the tyrant within themselves.