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City Council vs. Mayor a Communication Failure?

Council members have said information has been withheld from them by city officials about RNC costs and red light cameras.

At last Thursday's City Council meeting it was apparent that, "What we've got here is... failure to communicate." between City Council and Mayor Bill Foster. The issue is whether it is intentional or just an information exchange failure.

A new business item was added last-minute to the agenda Thursday for a "discussion regarding City Council information requests."

For council chair Leslie Curran, and other council members, they said they have had trouble getting various budget, policy, and project information before the public from the Mayor and city administration.

Curran said she has asked repeatedly about unknown RNC costs but was told that information would be provided only when ready. However, Tampa provided that information to the Tampa Bay Times regarding costs associated with St. Pete hosting the official RNC kick-off party. 

"We are standing in line with the press," Curran said with getting information from city officials. "I just think, no offense to the press, your job is to present the news, our job is to govern. It's difficult to do that if you don’t have the information."

Thursday's unexpected discussion about _adding nine new red light cameras in St. Petersburg_, Curran said, was a microcosm of the communication failures between council and Foster. 

St. Peter resident Matt Florell was speaking during open forum regarding yellow light times at intersections with red light cameras when he mentioned the city was adding more red light cameras. This was news to city council. 

Council member Jeff Danner said he knows adding additional cameras was part of the original red light camera agreement, but only after council received a safety report of the effectiveness of the first cameras placed around St. Petersburg. 

"We’ve learned form the pubic that more cameras are going up," Danner said at Thursday's council meeting. "That’s the issue, learning this on the fly. We get the heat for putting the cameras up. We (did) it because it was a safety issue. Now we are doing more without the safety data." 

"I think any time we are told we can’t have information, it should have few and far between," said council member Steve Kornell. "Lately, it’s happened a little more than I would like."

For council member Karl Nurse, some council members might need to look in the mirror as to why there is a communication gap between council and the Mayor. 

Nurse said it has become routine for some council member to attack Foster and city officials each week during council meetings. 

"I think that we have sort of wandered off into a style where the personal attacks are just every week," he said. 

He said if you treat someone poorly you cannot reasonably expect that to be a good relationship. 

"It’s human nature that when you abuse people on television that people are going to be much more cautious sharing information and you’ll get it slower," Nurse said.  

Council member Bill Dudley said grilling each city staffer like they are the enemy, "just gets him the wrong way."

Foster waited until the end of the discussion to respond last Thursday.

"I deeply respect you all and spent 10 years on that side of the hall. I knew what it was like to be a part of the team," Foster said. "I’ve tried for some of you, tried to be on your team since I got elected and have not been invited to your team.

"Respect and trust are earned and they are mutual," Foster added. "I‘m happy to release any and all information to you about things that are public, pertinent to your district."

City Attorney John Wolfe said anything that is public record should be shared with council but the way it's shared is between the Mayor and council. 

Foster said he would continue to provide information when it is available and build better relationships with council. 

"We will continue to work together and try to do what’s best for this city, the people that hired all of us," Foster said. 

Red October 09, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Say it isn't so Joe! City fathers not giving us the whole story, making arbitrary distortions? Tell us about the Pier, tell me about the police station, how about the "upcoming" stadium? AHH, say it ain't so.
Kay C. Tecklenburg October 09, 2012 at 01:08 PM
it is not failure to communicate, Fostor & his follies are just continuing to try & hide whatever his real agenda is and ramrod our city into the decisions he make's behind everyones back, not just the council Biggest example is the "PIER" and from what I can determine it will be his biggest folly. so much for handicap people driving out to the end of the pier & using the valet service so they can obsere, shop, & dine in a wonderful resturant w/the greatest view downtown.
beichler October 09, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Actually there is trolley service from the starting point of the Pier next to the parking area all the way out to the end for people to use. This is another example of people in the City just spotting off without actually looking at the New Pier. Take a look at the information and then make an informed comment. http://www.thenewstpetepier.com/
cherylwithac October 09, 2012 at 02:12 PM
Foster's Folly: the Lens. It will go down in the history books.
JDMcC October 09, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Why are St Petersburg taxpayers being forced to pay a single CENT for the RNC? It was a private party, not a public event. Let the GOP foot the bill! I thought the RNC was supposed to GENERATE revenue for the city - not siphon funds from our municipal treasury! All I saw during the days leading up to the RNC (when absolutely nothing was going on) were packs of uniformed cops riding around on bicycles like gang members, trying to intimidate resident taxpayers for no apparent reason. It was outrageous enough at the time to have these thugs circling around our downtown streets, snaking around the concrete barriers they'd set up to obstruct our path through our own downtown, but now we get a bill to pay for it? Outrageous.
Peter J Dunlay October 09, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Aww... don't you just feel sorry for them all? Now, Council Mambers can have the same experience the Citizens of St. Pete are having. Always wondered why the Council seemed to be "in the dark" about so many issues. The voters are beginning to get a clear picture of the various "personal agendas" of those in City Government. Self-aggrandizement at the expense of the Taxpayer!
Jerry Kendall October 09, 2012 at 03:54 PM
There is a very simple solution to this entire mess. Let's toss them all out and start over with new people that care about our city, be responsive to our citizens and can operate in an effective and professioanl fashion. And, to think, that some of these council members actually have thoughts about running for Mayor - really.
Kay C. Tecklenburg October 09, 2012 at 03:57 PM
yes there is trolley service now, but from everything I am seeing on the lay out, that the new pier will be a walk out all the way, just not a straight shot. I have been told there will be the usually parking but from the beginning access it is to be only walking. NO trolley out to the end.
Rider October 09, 2012 at 05:17 PM
Do you have any handicapped people in your world...and, if so, do you really think that they're going to ride that trolley on the lens? Really? Not the handicapped in my life. Wheelchair-bound people have difficulty getting in and out of trolleys. This present pier is designed for handicap access, not as an afterthought. Besides, what is there to do on the lens? Beichler, you are SO wrong. We know of the trolley that goes on the HotWheels track/walk to nowhere......and regarding more practical factors, what happens when a storm comes in, out of nowhere, in the summer and fall here? Where will the handicapped take cover in a hurry? Will the surface of the walkway be designed as a non-slip surface?
Andy Wallace October 09, 2012 at 07:28 PM
http://www.pismochamber.com/cityvision/californiapiers/piercd/Redondo.htm
Red October 17, 2012 at 02:30 PM
They play - -- - we pay ,whats wrong with that? it's the RNC way, Haven't you read their platform? I though not!

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